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    Charlie Weis has led ND to back to back BCS bowls and would need to go 0-12 this season to tie Willingham in Win %. The last of Davie's recruits graduated last year and now we are stuck with Ty's crappy classes.

    Ty was fired because he couldn't coach (lowest 2.5 year win % in ND history) and couldn't recruit (worst recruiting rankings since they've been published). Also, Weis has already locked up his 3rd consecutive top 10 recruiting class, so get your shots in now.

    Actually you're wrong. Weis has taken the team to back to back BCS bowls b/c its Notre Dame - last year they had NO business in a BCS game and it showed. If Notre Dame were in the SEC they woudn't even have been bowl eligible.

    As for recruits - this is where you are wrong. Tyrone Willingham joined Notre Dame in '02 - Bob Davies last recruits (unless we're talking 5 year guys who are NOT the cream of the crop) left ND in '05. So Weis won primarily with all Tyrone Willingham recruits - including Brady Quinn (first Tyrone class) and Jeff Smardajza (sp?).
    As a Stanford Cardinal Fan I've experienced plenty of top 5 recruiting classes under Bill Walsh (second term) that didn't work out - so I'm skeptical b/c Charlie Weis' program should be well under way (3rd year) with much of the starters being Sophomore & Juniors he brought in but when I watch the games I see a disorganized team made of of individuals not playing as a team.

    And for ND's prized QB recruit Jimmy Claussen, maybe he becomes a great player but so far he lacks the arm strength, mobility and decision making that everybody heralded as can't miss.

    I personally don't have anything against ND but it does bug me how much of a free pass they get every season into a great bowl game so long as they win 7 or 8 games.

    Charlie Weis won't go 0-12 (Notre Dame schedules too many patsies for that to happen) but I think he's starting to show that he's not Lou Holtz or Pete Carroll - meaning Notre Dame won't be challenging for national titles anytime soon.

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